JU: Are you thin still? M: Um, in a crowd, yes. In a crowd of very heavy people.

Not everybody is absolutely stupid. Why on earth would I be racist, what would I be trying to achieve?

Lots of people make the stage and it can seem very violent and over the top, but it's not really. It's always a kind of gentle ballet.

That's why I do this music business thing, it's communication with people without having the extreme inconvenience of actually phoning anybody up.