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I would have left all the Jews in Germany, but put them on an alien status, under alien law, and naturally closed them out of jobs like doctor or lawyer. But why execute them? In that way, strong Jewish influence would have been cast aside and there would be no need for atrocities. Whenever we would have discussions in our own circle, I would mention my solution, whereupon Himmler would say to me, 'Pohl, you are too soft.' Therefore, I did my best to keep out of the whole final solution of the Jewish problem.

Oswald Pohl#7

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About this quote

What does it mean?
The speaker proposes segregation instead of execution but deflects blame for atrocities by claiming his ideas were rejected by superiors.
In plain terms
I suggested isolating Jews rather than killing them, but my superiors wanted worse.
What can you take from it?
Proposing lesser evils does not absolve complicity in greater crimes.

Where it applies

  • systemic oppression
  • bureaucratic decision making
  • moral evasion

Putting it to work

  • identifying moral responsibility
  • analyzing bureaucratic evil

Questions to consider

  • At what point does refusing to do the worst become complicity?
  • How do officials distance themselves from atrocities?

Another view

The speaker claims moral objection while actively participating in the system.

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