It's terrible, everyone is using it, and they don't realize how bad it is. And the Linux people will just stick with it and add to it rather than stepping back and saying, 'This is garbage and we should fix it.

This is a software monopoly but at least it was written by people who care about security, so it's not like Microsoft's monopoly.

Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we love Unix.

So the HP guy comes up to me (at the Melbourne conference) and he says, 'If you say nasty things like that to vendors you're not going to get anything'. I said…