Skip to content
quotesby

Military people have a heavy investment in rules against torture, not only because we want to protect our own POWs from reciprocal brutalities, as a former general counsel for the Department of the Navy explains here, but also because war is so terrible that it desperately requires any limits anyone can agree on, any gesture toward dignity, any mitigation suggesting civilized scruple. There isn't even persuasive evidence that torture makes its victims tell their secrets, instead of saying whatever we want to hear. From an international leader in the cause of human rights and democratic values, the U.S. has turned into an unaccountable bully.

John Leonard#17

EthicsDignityHuman rightsTortureWar

About this quote

What does it mean?
Rules against torture are essential for dignity in war, and there is little proof they work for intelligence.
In plain terms
Banning torture keeps war human and likely helps get less useful secrets.
What can you take from it?
Torture limits are about human dignity and do not guarantee effective intelligence.

Where it applies

  • international relations
  • policy debate

Putting it to work

  • advocating for humane treatment
  • analyzing interrogation

Questions to consider

  • Are there ever exceptions for torture?
  • How do we balance security and ethics?

Another view

Some argue extreme threats justify extreme measures.

More from John Leonard

  1. Where did all the liberals go? If the gringos in their villas dream at all, it's of sugar-plum stock options. Never mind social justice, what happened to habea…

    Permalink to quote #16
  2. My whole life I have been waving the names of writers, as if we needed rescue. From these writers, for almost 50 years, I have received narrative, witness, com…

    Permalink to quote #18
  3. The life, no matter how traumatic, never explains the work, if the work is any good. W. B. Yeats, Ezra Pound, Doris Lessing, and Saul Bellow variously believed…

    Permalink to quote #15

Related quotes

  1. Slaves no doubt, but still men.

    Ambrosius Theodosius MacrobiusAmbrosius Theodosius Macrobius quote #1
  2. If you are going to call yourself a Christian-and I don't-then you have to ask yourself a fundamental question, and that is: Whom would Jesus torture? Whom wou…

    Ron ReaganRon Reagan quote #3
  3. Torture was necessary to maintain slavery. It was integral to slavery. You cannot have slavery without some torture or the threat of torture; and you cannot ha…

    Andrew SullivanAndrew Sullivan quote #4