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The bones of the Sophists long ago turned to dust and what they said turned to dust with them and the dust was buried under the rubble of declining Athens through its fall and Macedonia through its decline and fall. Through the decline and death of ancient Rome and Byzantium and the Ottoman Empire and the modern states... buried so deep and with such ceremoniousness and such unction and such evil that only a madman centuries later could discover the clues needed to uncover them, and see with horror what had been done.

Robert M. Pirsig#61

PhilosophyHistoryIdeasSophistsDiscovery

About this quote

What does it mean?
The Sophists’ teachings have been forgotten, buried under layers of history, only to be rediscovered by a madman centuries later, revealing horror at what was done.
In plain terms
Sophist ideas were lost and later unearthed with shocking insights.
What can you take from it?
Historical ideas can resurface with powerful, unsettling implications.

Where it applies

  • archaeology
  • intellectual history

Putting it to work

  • preserve diverse viewpoints
  • study forgotten thinkers

Questions to consider

  • Why are some ideas erased?
  • What can we learn from lost philosophies?

Another view

The dramatic framing may exaggerate the impact of the rediscovery.

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