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Himmler hated the church. He and Bormann were the two people who influenced Hitler most. When I spoke to Hitler in the beginning he agreed with me and said that no state could be governed without religion. In Mein Kampf he said that a man was a fool if he destroyed the religion of the people. Hitler also made the statement that the political reform should not be a religious reform.

Franz von Papen#2

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What does it mean?
Himmler and Bormann influenced Hitler most, though Hitler initially said religion was necessary for governance and against destroying it.
In plain terms
Hitler initially supported religion for governance but was influenced by those who opposed it.
What can you take from it?
Personal beliefs can shift under political influence.

Where it applies

  • history
  • religion
  • politics

Putting it to work

  • study history
  • track policy shifts
  • identify influences

Questions to consider

  • Why do leaders change views on religion?
  • Who shapes policy makers?

Another view

Historical accounts of private statements can be contested or incomplete.

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