The most important victory, in fact, was in Indonesia. In 1965 there was a military coup, which instantly carried out a Rwanda-style slaughter, and it's not an exaggeration. Rwanda-style slaughter, which wiped out the only mass-based political organization, killed mostly landless peasants, and instituted a brutal and murderous regime. There was total euphoria in the United States. So happy, they couldn't contain it. When you read the press, it was just ecstatic. It's kind of suppressed now because it doesn't look pretty in retrospect, but it was understood. Years later, McGeorge Bundy, who was the national security advisor, recognized that, he said, and I think he's right, the U.S. should have stopped the war in Vietnam in 1965, because we basically won. By 1965 South Vietnam was largely destroyed, most of the rest was gonna quickly be destroyed, and we had saved the major prize, Indonesia. The rot wasn't gonna spread to Indonesia after this delightful Rwanda-style slaughter.
About this quote
- What does it mean?
- Chomsky claims the US celebrated a violent coup in Indonesia in 1965 and argues the Vietnam War was essentially won by then.
- In plain terms
- The US supported a brutal coup in Indonesia and continued fighting in Vietnam despite claims of victory.
- What can you take from it?
- US foreign policy has historically prioritized strategic interests over human rights.
Where it applies
Putting it to work
Questions to consider
- When do we prioritize strategy over ethics?
- How do we assess 'victory'?
Another view
The assessment of victory in Vietnam is a matter of debate among historians.
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